Comments by Vardan Betikyan

Well for one you guys are white (based on Alex's scoring system from his video, gives you points), and other genetic facial features that make up for it. So a bad nose.. not a big deal. I'm from a very minority group, yet my face is on business cards, post cards, videos online marketing, and soon hopefully to be on billboards and buses. I see this purely from a logical perspective. And no, I won't be the same person. When you're naturally pulling 2-3x as many women, you naturally become less needy. Law of abundance my friend. Nose surgery to me is the same as having a flashy car really. And I already have that. I drive an alfa romeo, soon to upgrade to a corvette 2021 in December. So, you're right, it's not my looks that pulls in the girls, it's my money

Exactly, you don't have to try hard, I do. To be frank, it's easy to say "just be confident" when you're pulling 5-6s with just a glance. I use all the PUA and redpill methods and such. I have to make sure to say the right things at the right times, I get naturally shit tested more. All this energy expended is already "investment" in itself, just to get my foot in the door. Then after that I'm already drained, so I can't keep the attraction alive as much. So when a girl pulls back, I naturally become needy due to high investment on my end. It's mentally draining brother. This isn't as much low self esteem, as it's reality. You can fake it only for so long until things start to get to you

Not to mention, after all this hard work, I barely pull a 6, 7 if I'm lucky.

As for framing, no matter how hard your frame is, if you keep getting a battering ram on it from all sides, it causes it to crack and break eventually

I appreciate it brother. I do realize I don't necessarily "need" it, but if it will make me look better, why not? Got the money for it. That's what I'm curious about, if it will make a difference, or actually look the same or worse. Also looked into eye color changing called Stroma (non-surgical, just takes off pigments from the iris via light, seems safe) make my eye color lighter, and changing my name into a more subjectively decent name, like Michael or something (just not Chad for the love of god haha). People until this day can't pronounce my name properly Vartan, and have trouble remembering it. I think this would help me with the ladies, as well as in my business, as it would help establish rapport rather than me always coming off as someone with an ulterior motive and not trusted

Well that's the problem, the "losers" lack confidence, which makes them lose a few points. Once their confidence goes up (after other guys flirt with them a bit here and there) they go up in points, and they value me less, then end up leaving. Charm and charisma only goes so far when the girl doesn't value it anymore, and it's quite daunting keep up the energy levels when you get put down often. As for the rhinoplasty, even going up a point or so would make a significant difference. I'm a firm believer of the red pill, and I just heard of the black pill after you mention it. Both make perfect sense. Black pill exaggerates looks, while red pill understates it. It's all just a pointing system really, it's not all black and white. I've even had 10s (extremely rare) hit on me under the right conditioning (they're horny, social proof, great female to male ratio, ect). I won't do anything extreme that affects my health long term, but looks are king when it comes to attraction, personality and "game" are a small part which come second. Having strong frame and game will boost you a point or 2, but if you're considered a 3-4, that's only like 5-6. And how long can you exactly keep it up? It's tiresome being confident and witty all the time, you get shit tested more often. If I'm going to put that much work on attracting a girl, I would want to earn a 9-10, not get sloppy seconds from a 6. Basically "game" is faking confidence, and faking anything takes a lot of mental energy, especially when self-absorption is misinterpreted as arrogance, and kindness is misinterpreted as weakness.. but when you have the looks, self-absorption is seen as confident, and kindness is seen as being humble. It's all bullshit really. Rhino is pretty safe-ish.. I've also looked into changing the color of my eyes using a laser procedure. Seem's pretty safe from the research I've been doing. This is not only to "get girls", but it's also to succeed in life. I don't want to work 10x as hard just to make the same amount a facially aesthetically pleasing man makes, so I'll be damned if I won't do anything about it, just as long as it's within reason and not extreme. Confidence is key to attraction, but confidence is achieved from success, not constant failure. I've always been a strong believer of non-conformity, but when you're experiencing social anxiety and minimal love life, there's only so much you can take. We are social creatures, we are hardwired for validation whether we admit it or not. There will always be someone whose better looking or better at something than what you do, but I'll be damned if I use that as an excuse to keep my self-improvement stagnated. I just really want to know if a nose job would improve my face or not. I've also looked into changing eye colors (non-surgical, deemed relatively safe, called Stroma), and change my middle eastern name into a white name like Michael or something. I've done some research on it, interestingly enough, turns out our name is also a factor. I think that would also add a point or so. So after all this, combined with working out, I count 2-3 extra points just looks alone, which will naturally make my "game" a lot easier, and help me establish rapport easier with my potential clients. Better love life, better financial success, happier. Again, I love my name, I love my looks, but my social life is lacking which I attribute to my ethnicity and looks. Sorry for the essay, I like to be thorough. Thoughts?

Sure, I'm always open to constructive criticism. Elaborate?

Yeah I only do front pics, but I look completely different when the image is reversed (mirrored). Basically I like the way I look in the mirror, but in pictures and when I check myself out on a reversed mirror, I look completely different and distorted (which is the real image on how people see me in person). I don't get any glaces or returned smiles at bars and clubs, only get attention from fat girls, gays and trans, makes me think something is wrong with how I look lol.
I really appreciate the compliment brother, I do feel a bit down on my looks, what you said is appreciated :)

That's why I'm getting many outside opinions as well. Even if I do decide I won't do it for another year or so. As for getting the results I were looking for, there isn't any specific goal to reach, just maximize my SMV, which in turns helps me as a Realtor as well, make money, get girls one prettier after the other, until I'm pretty much out of my prime

Interesting suggestion. Every date I've had from online I ended up closing, they just don't stick around for long when an ex or some other handsome stud comes into play. I don't want to be an option, and I think photo-shopping will mess with the odds and I don't really have the time to go on many dates that are timewasting. I prefer to be able to pick up girls by being real, and not be an option

Thanks! Glad to me on board. Honestly I think I look weird when I smile, my face becomes more bent. And I realized I look totally different when the image is mirrored (symmetry to blame?) I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford going under the knife, I think of it as a permanent 1-2 point boost. Just wanted to know if it looks like it would make a major difference. I do plan on getting a new fashion wardrobe as well as working out, ect. The better looking a guy is, the easier things are that's an unfortunate fact, I'm looking to try to maximize my appearance