2nd one is good, put it in the we frame. Both are good to be fair, just do which you feel is better
2nd one is good, put it in the we frame. Both are good to be fair, just do which you feel is better
I'm letting you seduce me* don't get ahead of yaself cowboy. Lol.
Last part seemed a bit uncalibrated. When she said 'aww daddy' you could've said something tongue in cheek like "Oh stop, you're turning me on before we even meet or something" seed the idea and let her invest off of it if you're going to use Alex's text patterns.
You misunderstand me: I stated that I actually have the same flow/frame as you when I interact with girls on the apps. The difference with mine is that I'm moving forward as fast as possible because there have been many girls in the past (very attractive ones) that, when I texted in your format, ending up flaking or giving another excuse. I've had much more success by getting them off the apps ASAP and moving to a number and then meetup shortly after if the logistics allow for it. But, as I stated, I agree with your texting format because it can work with CERTAIN attractive girls, but not all and I think that's what you conceded. I respect your concession because any guy who claims to have a 100% foolproof way of texting is full of shit. Also, I'd be interested to see you on the podcast. I hop on when I am available so it'd be dope to see you on some time.
I don't know where our discrepancy here is, then. My texting has somewhat of the same flow and frame as yours does, minus the amount of texting. I save a majority of this kind of talk for when we meetup because I've had interactions like this where, after getting her to open up, she isn't open to the idea of meeting because it's almost like you've already gone on a date to them (that's their backwards reasoning and rationalization for declining). Sure, this can work in SOME cases, but a vast majority will likely not end in a meetup due to what I stated previously. The dating app should be used for some banter and back and forth investment and securing a meetup as soon as possible so you can have this interaction personally. You've got to feel out her walls and break them down in person (no inuendo here ;).) by using your tonality, body language, conversational skills etc... So I still agree with this sort of frame in general. Minus a couple nuances
Key phrase 'Do it wrong'. I agree that most guys do it wrong. But doing it right can have the same, if not better effects as 'your approach'. Sure, it's all subjective and everyone will achieve success differently, but the core concepts are still there. And haha sure, we can go with that fuck buddy joke, but at the end of the day, some don't just want fuck buddies, you feel?
I'd be interested for you to lay out an example in which either of the texts would lead to something. Can you share a line of dialogue as an example for where you'd take them after sending them?
I agree with this sentiment in person. But bro, dating apps are a much MUCH different ballgame than in-person interactions. A girl will only invest if she has a baseline attraction to you on the dating app already. A lot of times you have to build the investment like you say, but these 'investment' tactics will not work if you're not already leading the interaction towards the possibility of a meetup. Building that kind of investment can work sometimes on the dating apps, but chances are low. especially if she's very attractive, she's going to have a lot of options and you can't afford to be her text buddy in the meantime.
Yeah.. unfortunately with certain girls, if you don't navigate convos in certain way, the attractive ones especially, will likely just unmatch you since they have so many other dudes around. For me, when navigating 'hotter' girls, I don't necessarily polarize right away (though it can work in specific situations), I just like to make observations about the girl that no dude before her probably mentioned.
of course you could be wrong, but that's why you're curious/making the assumption about it. And yes, bringing it up later would be just as fine, it could become your little inside joke/what you call her on the date and whatnot. It's sort of a hook phrase in that scenario like "Ahhh there's my little viking girl" you get the gist.