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A lot of my interactions have been really good to start & my past 15-20 matches on hinge just go cold. Something like this.. should I have just went for the wine close, rather than bait her here? I feel like I’m overthinking my text game a lot lately, failed to close a house date & just ended up getting a shit ton of LMR a week ago & have been off my game since 😠 help me man. Curt
I was active here at the top of the year, had to travel due to work and stopped posting but now I’m back. Check my profile for some hidden value 🤫. Anyway, simple text breakdown... Can i be honest opener is still undefeated. With this girl, I matched before and fumbled the bag, I remember. But shoutout PWF. She doubled texted pretty quick so that let me know her investment. Just normal moving the conversation forward from there. I will say if you’re in a tough spot in moving things forward, play that three questions game (gives you a chance to prod at sexualizing also), it also gets short texters to actually invest more and if they don’t call them out on it. We do that, I kinda allude to being good at sex which isn’t a lie and also soft wine close at this point, she brings up not fucking anyone and blah blah blah, I swerve that little shit test and number close. Gonna set up drinks at my hotel or her place and if that doesn’t work then ONLY a bar!!!! NOOOO DINNER DATES PLEASE.
Been out of the game for about 4 months now, kinda going blank here. Pretty sexy English chick.. dont wanna oversexualize out the gate boys, trying to see where to go (honeymoon route, qualifying her on kinky sex before marriage, etc) any help is appreciated as always! Will be posting more as I was at the end of last year! Cheers! ~ Curt
If you don’t want to read just check the screenshots. Gaps in our texts bc shes a horrible texter. I’ll explain later, learned a lot about persistency, dealing with cancelling, flaking, LMR, low investment, etc. as I talked to her. So this started 3 weeks ago on my post about the “we” frame. Open her (before I got permabanned) in Spanish... shoot the shit then we frame & number close. Bounce her to text and tried to lock plans in quick, we do, I have to reschedule, she’s cool with it, I screen further & don’t hit her up until the day of to confirm. When I go to confirm she doesn’t respond. I got ghosted for a week. I wasn’t double texting either, I waited for her to respond. She apologized & said her job keeps her super busy screenshots not included. I ask her again about our romantic date where I cook and we drink wine, she’s fine with it. Same thing, go to confirm & she’s super late and cancels again because she doesn’t want to come over to my place on the first date. (Even though I told her this through voice already & she agreed).. it’s a shit test I thought.. no big deal, tried to meet in my lobby.. HARD NO. Okay cool, she has a concern and wants to meet on neutral ground first. Fine. I setup a date in public (the ultimate sin) since she’s ridiculously hot, she agrees again. But something with work came up AGAIN & she can’t make it (she’s a project manager). I go cold and reengage like a week later. Same plans, and I let her know since I’m leaving town it’s now or never.. put the pressure on her (I wasn’t really leaving but it doesn’t hurt to try this.. I wanted to gauge her investment). Her ONS concern pops up (I told her I’m deploying soon, which I am) which was the real concern.. I let her know I’ll still be in the area for a bit before I leave so we should link up & try to set plans up AGAIN.. she cancels boys. So I chalk her up as a flake & didn’t hit her up for another week. (If you’re still reading this patience is key here, you need abundance to not think about women too much, it helps a lot). From the blueprint.. when you get these situations don’t get your ego hurt and delete her number. Just wait. If you didn’t do anything wrong, and weren’t needy, you weren’t creepy, you flirted a bit, showed some value, etc.. there’s a good chance she will hit you up when shes get horny. You just have to capitalize. So she does hmu. I recognized that, we talk, I tell her my hectic schedule & tell her bye pretty much, I’ll see you in six months and we can try to link again. I really was over her lol, but this is the most investment I’ve got from her in 3 weeks of talking so I match it. I shoot out a feeler text, no public date though, I tease her and say I’m not going straight to her place (I have to because my apartment is packed up) and that I’m a nun, blah blah blah. Let her know that I need chemistry to fuck, and I don’t fuck everyone bc I make women crazy. She says her place is messy, and that’s the last test she’s gonna give me I can feel it, that’s not gonna turn me away boys I’ve been waiting 3 weeks.. it’s all logistics after we exchange pics since I got banned on tinder. LMR bit here ALMOST DONE I SWEAR, I get to her place.. we drink & watch Netflix for like an hr. She asks me about being a sex coach, so I tell her and ease into sex talk and how women don’t cum as much as they need to and blah blah blah. I tell her how I can tell she likes being submissive & being choked, spanked, etc because she’s dominant and bossy in her day to day life, then I choked her lightly (feeling her legs, brushing her hair, strong eye contact the whole time before that). We start making out after, I feel her pussy, she stops me, okay cool, leave my hand on her thigh.. pull away & talk to her some more, make out and then I pulled her on top of me and it was a wrap after that. She came 10-15 times and had a great night. I hit her up today, just doing some rotation building & that’s it. If you made it this far I hope I helped you out, this was my most extensive and last LR for about six months as I gear up for deployment. This was my best year with women by far (quantity AND quality) she was number 20 something I don’t even know at this point 🤣🤣. If you don’t have the blueprint yet. Go fucking get it. Thanks Alex, thanks IPE & thanks to everyone contributing here. Cheers. ~ Curt
I’ve been on such a role I don’t quite know how to take this hit to my ego, this chick literally isn’t budging.. everything I say is getting left on read. I don’t think I did anything wrong lol. I’m thinking about going super sexually aggressive in a few days from now, need some input. Or should I just chalk her up as a time waster and keep it pushing?
Currently writing this omw back up to DC, something I wanted to add was maybe disable all tinder notifications if you guys have them on, it makes your response times better. Anyway, open her with hey future lover in Spanish. This was a new approach to that opener & it worked.. just trying to get in the door. Her investment was low so I figured I’d try to move the conversation forward with an investment building question & see if it changes. Turns out we live very close together & also that she seeded the idea of “our” romantic date very easily. I’ve noticed when you use “we” frame from the open receptiveness later on to it in the conversation is WAY higher. No need to bullshit here, get her schedule & gave her a few details of the date. I’ve seen this before plenty of times, and it’s in the Alex’s blueprint... where she’s not saying she’s DTF explicitly but she’s coming straight to my place & how to deal with this type in person. All I gotta do is get her going in person which isnt hard if you don’t overthink it. Number close & I’m confirming as we speak. Wish me luck tonight bois. ~ Curt
This is a very straightforward same night LR, with a few rotation building screenshots. PSA, I do have that I’m a dom in my profile on bumble. If you’re gonna go this route I recommend actually reading about and studying what it is to be a dom. Moving forward... she’s very horny. It was around 10:30 almost 11 pm at the time. It’s paramount to realize this & also to talk kinks before you meet up with a new woman if you guys are about to play w/ BDSM in mind. So we talk for a bit.. pretty explicitly as you can see, which works in my favor since we’re going into detail so much. Okay so kink talk is done. I needed to culminate that “I’m your guy” into sext, screaming orgasms and oral is the way like Alex teaches. She bites on that & also the spontaneous text, so I number close, then logistics, and we bang that night. No need to seed a romantic date or hit every step of compliance here, situations like this you can skip a few rungs on the ladder. Following, I text and let her know we should do it again & then go silent. She texts me a day later really horny still, so we make plans and meet again... now she’s on my rotation. Very straightforward situations like this it’s best to not overthink & just move things forward without being super horny. I’m still working on being better, it’ll come with time. Love the forum here man, you guys help me out more than you know! 🔥 ~ Curt
So I open this super hot asian who graduates Harvard law next year with “swiped for the nice booty & cute pigtails 👌🏾“ and she responded with this. As I’ve never seen this response before I’m looking for input. I’m leaning towards saying yeah because I DONT want to put her on pedestal. But she has some huge perceived value here obviously being a hot Ivy league lawyer in the making. Any help is appreciated!! I Have a very straightforward LR I’ll type up after tonight with how I moved with this very direct sub from bumble who’s a regular now. The sex coach/dom bio works very well, just have to back it up! ~ Curt
Success rate: hasn’t failed yet, check pics below. “I like this innocent little aesthetic you have going on” This is going to be a good opener based on what her pics tell you, I’ve been subbing innocent with cute, sexy, naughty, etc. & aesthetic I’m gonna start using vibe and see how that goes. It works because sometimes you frame the girl wrong and she doesn’t wanna be called innocent, it kinda starts a flirting vibe from the open. And with the other words you can set your frames as such. Try it out! ~ Curt
NOTICE: Being curt & succinct like Alex says is PARAMOUNT and has helped me so much with my text game. Also.. matching response times or even being a little earlier or a bit later specific to the convo. Those two things project a lot of value alone boys, even if you don’t have an abundance of women yet, try to practice that. Ok here’s the LR. Technically isn’t a “full” LR yet, but for those who don’t know I’ve been using the PWF ideology for about 1.5 years now. Still polishing things, but yeah here’s the rundown. Super hot Korean girl on tinder, simple opener here because her first pic made her legs look long which I like so I opened as such. Moving forward I got 6 drunk texts this morning during booty call hrs 12-4 AM so I tease her about it a bit. Getting some vibing out the way before hand by specifying hair length & tell her short girls are cool too (I’m 6’3”). So yeah she mentions she was drinking white claws, at this point I can tell she likes alcohol a good bit so I DHV w/ the white claw margs thing & shoot that classic no pressure “we should have drinks sometime”. She bites by liking the message (I can move further up the ladder). Kinda see the conversation heading nowhere so I had to turn it back around letting her know my fondness of Asians and kinda get back on that page of “hey I like you, we should meet up”. Little shit test after this, she thinks I’m generalizing which I am.. but let’s make what I said more specific to her, THAT IS BIG WHEN YOU GET CAUGHT UP HERE. Let her know you have standards and she made the cut, very big. If you see, I’ve just studied the material a lot and just bend it a bit throughout to kinda suit the situation.. sometimes it’s verbatim from Alex and IPE, but nonetheless it’s calibrated. Screen her a little bit later, she gives me a nonchalant answer “nothing in specific” & reciprocates so I tell her “just going with the flow” anything of that sort works here. She mentions my bio at this point I’m talking about sex and pussy eating in it, at this point I’m ready to close... but I also want to see what she’s interested in. It’s just logistics & number closing & confirming tmrw at this point. I’m free tmrw, so she’s coming to my place.. shooting for 6 because I have work Monday. But yeah hopefully this helps some of the new guys. Will try to do more of these often. Thanks Alex, thanks IPE. curt