just 48 hours is good. And no, you dont want to g

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Nightgame #, how to proceed?

Opened this girl in a 4set. Talked to her for like 10 mins and isolated + made out with her while setting up the date for the next day since I couldn't pull. When I set it up she gave some pushback around doing it near me but I decided to try anyways. Ideas on what to say? Normally I'd figure "I genuinely didn't take you for the flakey type" in a couple days but I think she's jsut pissed about me not giving in so I should prob say something more genuine like "hey didn't mean to be disrespectful, just thought I could show you a better time in {my area} since I'm more familiar. i still genuinely want to meet you". Also for context, it's like a 10 minute uber between the two places so it's just a principle thing for her

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avilench .

just 48 hours is good.

And no, you dont want to give into shit all the time. sometimes it's better to hold frame. In response to her last message I would have said "damn, you really hate travel that much"

Anon PUA

thanks alex.

do you have any tactical advice on when/how to hold a strong frame without looking aggressive/pushy/needy? i've struggled with this on dates too. have seen the majority of your tactical videos and the frame control ones, but don't think you have anything specifically on this topic.

avilench .

I talk about this quite extensively in the course but there should be some YT vids where I break down frame control. At least 3 I can remember from the top of my head. search 'PWF Frame Control" on YT.

Its a comprehensive topic so my explanation here would be long, but check out the course or the YT vids

avilench .

personally I never do dinner dates but its ok for 1 date. moving forward, just invite her straight over... dont overthink it or do anything fancy