Loading…
I know I have some blind spots here, because I thought I did most things right.
I got her snap in the end, sent her a snap but got nothing back :(
What went wrong? Where can I improve?
First thing I see is that you're seeding too early. Asking her what she's doing tonight. It's premature. Not always, but in most cases you don't want to do that until you've sexualized, DHVed yourself or gotten her to invest (or even chase for the meet).
Then you actually go for the meet! Again, WAY too early. This of course would work if 1. she's super horny 2. Your SMV is very high and she's very much into you already only based on your profile -- but even with those 2, you'll still get objections.
You also go for some weak close. When are you free at any point in the future? She likely doesn't know and won't keep to a date made a week or more in advanced. Plus, what does it say about you? You're pretty much free for her at any point in the future.
She objects to meeting you at your place. Why? You didn't get her invested. You didn't DHV yourself. You didn't let your intent be known at all. Of course she won't come directly to your place! Again, way too premature!
You tell her nothing sexual will happen. Why would you do this? One she won't believe it. She just now knows you're lying. Adding more distrust! Plus, she says to not worry, she wasn't worried something sexual would happen... Why? Probably because she wants something sexual to happen.... She told you that isn't why she gave you objections! She likely said this because she doesn't know your intent and she hasn't invested at all. She doesn't know what you offer but now that she sees you aren't forward or honest, that's now a reason for objection.
She asks if it can be a social meeting with friends! Why? She doesn't trust you now. But you didn't make your sexual intent be known and then you tell it won't be sexual! So it's under a non-sexual friend frame. So why not invite all our friends for fun! Not good!!
Then you DLV yourself by saying you have no friends and that your only friend left you. NEVER do that. That is something you may want to not divulge. Or maybe you should lie a bit about that! You dug yourself into a deeper whole. You're now not trustworthy AND you have no friends (mmm why does this guy have no friends and the one he had left him?)
So what happens at the end? All of a sudden plans changed! She can't meet you anymore! And she'll let you know when she's free (That means never... unless girl is super bored with no other options..maybe.. but very unlikely)
Now you Snapchat close. To me this is just another friend-move. All her friends are on SC. Unless your stories are DHV af, what's the point? Though it is good you moved her, but def the wrong time to do so. Unless you have something up your sleeve to DHV yourself through that social media. You don't have friends and you come across as if you don't really do anything and you have a lot of free time, not really expecting SC to help you.
You should have done a lot of things differently throughout, but at the end you should have chilled out and waited until you number closed. Undo what you've done to that point. Introduce some DHVs, get her investing and SEXUALIZE the damn convo. She straight up has no problem with having sex. In fact I would guess that is what she was hoping for....
Wow thank you so much for this incredible feedback!!
I had a gut feeling that I was moving things way too prematurely, but I thought it would work because I saw in done in some successful examples, but the examples usually did show the conversation getting sexual beforehand.
I also thought it would work because I am pretty good-looking (the average Attractiveness score of my tinder photos is 9.7 based from Photofeeler), so sometimes I assume my face is DHV enough.
The "nothing sexual is going to happen" line is something that I grabbed from John Anthony in one of his videos, where he was talking about getting super reluctant girls that didn't want to feel like sluts to comply to coming over to the house. But again that was probably after some DHV had been shown from a previous interaction in the club. I definitely see the fault in using it here. That was dumb lol.
I didn't realize how bad saying my friend left would look before I said it, but clearly that's what put the nail in the coffin in the end. BAD JOHN.
When asking for availability, is asking "what's your schedule like this week" a better way to go?
Takeaways are:
You telling her nothings going to happen sexually placed you in the friend zone. I think if you avoid stating those you won’t sabotage your chances.