Fail Report - Point Of No Return

Unfortunately, this is now officially considered a loss. This was a middle eastern girl who insisted on us meeting in public. Their was an element of screening over Tinder that was sexualized, but beyond that I didn’t expand much on it considering we had matched before already.

We end up meeting at a bar but then somewhere in the beginning she brings up that I don’t look like my pictures, that I look different. This is from Tinder btw so it’s a different line up of pics then my Fb Dating profile. I playfully misinterpreted by saying “Ah. So is that your way of saying I look even better in person?” She then asked if I was low key cat fishing her. then dropped it and said it must just be the way I styled my hair. Wore Black leather jacket, ripped jeans, & black chelsea boots opposed to what I typically wear with just my hoodie, hat, & joggers.

We grab drinks & she’s being distant with her body language. I was telling her about my dog, how he’s excited to meet her. Asked her if she’d ever been to my hometown Yuma, told her I’d have to bring her for one of our romantic dates. Role-played her being my road manager on tour, places we’d go. I think a lot of bad frames were set, LTR frames perhaps. She was qualifying herself a bit with what my non-sexual turn ons were.

Eventually I try to pull her in for a kiss & she tells me she’s not going to. I then playfully would say “Wait, did you think I was gonna kiss you? Why would I ever want to do that..” Rejected me constantly throughout the night for the kiss. This was my third public date so I guess the rules that are grounded in public dates wasn’t pre-dominantly at front of my mind. I even grabbed her by the throat several times & she told me she liked it but not to do it in public even though we were at a bar lol.

I was starting to get turned off by the lack of receptiveness & getting so bored. But she was pretty hot. She told me that attraction is not enough for her & that she wants to feel the person likes her. Said she’d never been in a relationship before, & has only really dated but that it doesn’t really lead to anything. & That she wasn’t that sexually experienced, apparently.

Everything starts to slowly crumble here. Or at least, more so. She starts to “read” me. She says how she feels that I try to act “tough guy” but then am actually just nice & sweet. Also says she loves to tease me. I offer to go split a bottle at my place & to let Coco out and she said no. Offered to go for a walk and she said no. The negative compliance was bringing everything down. Eventually I just said let’s get out of here. At this point I think she was a little buzzed & I just was walking with her. Turns out we’re neighbors & she lives two minutes away from me at the building I was going to live at. She asks me at one point, what I would rate our date. & Then says that she can’t quite figure me out.

Before letting me into her apartment she insists that we weren’t going to fuck several times. Then pours us both a glass o wine as she then lays down on her back & smokes from her weed pen. I lean on top of her. Used the Stirling Cooper trick of putting the finger her mouth while I was talking to her. Then used that as a way to lean in & finally kiss her. I get her undressed & go down on her. She told me we couldn’t have sex multiple times & that she just met me. Butt naked on top of me but refusing to let me put my dick in her.

Then later on she was begging me to put my dick in her. Calling me daddy, begging then every time I would she would tell me to stop & pull out. Happened 10x & I was losing my erection given she didn’t even blow me & this resistance that. Also told me she wasn’t going to blow me. She told me that I ate her pussy SO good apparently & was almost going to make her cum. & Then said we needed to drink more wine & wanted to show me a part of her apartment.

She called me out for not being 6ft once my boots came off & that we were the same height. We went up then realized it was too cold so went back to her room. Talked more. She had a lot of validation issues I feel. That or she basically was trying to get me to qualify her more and say reasons I liked her which was difficult because she was being annoying with this bullshit.

She bends over again & I take off her dress. Pick her up & take her to the bed. Rinse & repeat & she tells me she wants my dick, then every time I go to slide in she stops me. Happens all over again. Lost my patience. She then was like “You’re not as kinky as I thought you’d be like you were at the bar” It was clear she was drunk & I felt considering it was a contrast from how different she was acting earlier before.. if it was just the booze in her rather then her actually maybe being into me. I couldn’t tell but I was like shaking my head & decided to get dressed.

Told her I was tired of people having expectations of how they think people should be like the entire time & if they don’t live up to it then you feel disappointed. She was then apologizing for the statement she made. Then took my pants off and was sucking my cock. Then put her on top of me & continued to refuse to let me go inside her hence me losing my erection even more. She told me that she was so horny & wanted to cum, but didn’t want to have sex. I got up & got dressed.

We made plans for Thursday by way of her bringing it up before I left. She wanted a kiss and hug goodbye. She gives me a sloppy one & then I walk back to my place. Unfortunately, as you see in the screenshots below, she was still texting yes but is just being nice at this point & she didn’t even offer to reschedule. Credit to Indian PE for helping me try to at least make the second meet happen

I debriefed with Alden & these were the takeaways

1. Lack of attraction: She wasn’t feeling turned on by the approach which led to her rejecting sex later on. If you lose confidence in yourself with a woman who is playfully resisting sex to build up tension, she may begin to lose interest in you, or completely lose interest.

2. Take sex off the table: Disqualification

3. Dirty talk: Verbal escalation is very essential for building tension. Eye contact, dirty talking and describing how you’d fuck her. All that is very important before you actually pull or pick her up and take her to the bedroom. It’s the right way to know whether you two are fucking or not at all before you even pull.

4. Avoid Chasing At All Costs: To prevent getting to the point of no return and them stopping you, you really need to work on your build up. Girls know they have power over you sexually. And if you only physically escalate, you may come across chasing. Seduction needs to go back and forth.